View Full Version : Mothers want curvier celebrities

M. Lopez
29th March 2006, 01:31
I came across an interesting article today, which pertains to recent discussions on this forum. The article notes that mothers in Britain increasingly want their daughters to be influenced by curvier celebrities, so that they can improve their self-esteem.

The article points out that negative body image is a serious problem among young girls in the U.K., and it's heartbreaking to read about the impact that this is having on young girls, who should be perfectly happy with themselves, rather than facing crippling self-doubt about their naturally healthy appetites and figures.

The article cites three supposedly "curvy" stars as better influences than waif models, but all three are still very thin (although I do applaud Charlotte Church for the size-positive statements that she has made during her career).

I just wish that young women today had more genuinely full-figured role models, especially plus-size goddesses like Barbara and Christina Schmidt, who, with their exciting careers, could really capture girls' imaginations. (If only the media gave them more attention!) Hopefully, when Charlotte Coyle's TV special airs in Britain, it will do some good, and help show young girls that, yes, supermodels can be size 16, 18, etc.

Here's the link:


and a chunk of the most important text:


Fuller figures that show skinny models do [no] good for girls' self-image

The Scotsman
Wed 29 Mar 2006

MOTHERS want their daughters to look like curvy stars such as Joss Stone, Charlotte Church and Billie Piper, rather than stick-thin fashion models.

Positive body role models will help to combat an increasing feeling of low self-esteem among young girls, according to research released yesterday. By rejecting thin role models, such as Kate Moss, in favour of curvier idols, mothers hope to encourage their daughters to be happy with their natural shape.

The call comes on the back of research which shows that girls in Britain suffer some of the lowest levels of self-esteem in the world...

Some 96 per cent of mothers wanted celebrities to set a better example on body image and 92 per cent of young girls wanted to see role models who looked like them in the public eye.

The mothers and the young girls have the backing of teachers, who believe that more positive celebrity role models would help to raise body-related self-esteem in the classroom.

30th March 2006, 06:54
There was an interesting response to this survey in another British newspaper. This article is problematic, and reveals the schizophrenic attitude that many women feel today about body image: partly realizing that they're being brainwashed, while partly still BEING brainwashed.

But the writer did make some interesting comments, such as:

"I try on a daily basis to instil in my daughters that whatever their shape or weight, they should always strive to feel good about themselves.

As a teenager, along with most of my peer group, I ate like a sparrow, because to be super thin was to be super pretty, clever, popular and nice.

Then I got a boyfriend who, on grabbing me around the waist one day, visibly recoiled at having felt more bone than flesh. His timely revulsion promptly gave me back my appetite..."

It wasn't her softness, but her thinness that turned him off. How few women realize this simple fact- that not the minority, but the majority of men find softer, fuller figures attractive (even though the media attempts to cast this natural preference as something unnatural).

The writer then also asks a rhetorical question, and one of her answers is pretty significant:

"So who is to blame for the production of this generation of girls weighed down with the burden of self-loathing?...

It seems to me that food is increasingly being portrayed as the enemy. And what about the mothers who make scathing comments about some passing teenager who flashes, without shame, a less-than-taut midriff in the name of fashion?"

Bingo. Too many women reproduce the anti-plus prejudice that's been drilled into them, even on sites that are supposed to be serving the curvy community. This kind of negativity has to be stamped out, for society to finally change.

Oh, and the writer makes this VERY important point:

"In our house, all talk of diets is banned."

That's exactly what's needed. No more mixed messages, just 100% body love. Eat whatever you want, and as much as you want. Dress to look curvier, not to diminish your shape. And there is NO such thing as a "fashion faux-pas" when it comes to curves, because ALL curves are beautiful.

The rest of the article is here:


but it's not consistently positive. Not until we get to the point where women believe that we are beautiful because we are full-figured, not despite this fact (and pass this freedom along to our daughters) will things finally change.

31st March 2006, 02:35
"mothers who make scathing comments about some passing teenager who flashes, without shame, a less-than-taut midriff in the name of fashion?"
The writer is wise to cite this as a specific example of how a mother can sabotage her daughter's self-esteem.

The key words, of course, are <i>"without shame."</i> How could any mother actually wish to impose <i>shame</i> on her daughter (<i>body</i> shame) by suggesting that a <i>"less-than-taut midriff"</i> is something that a young woman should hide?

Rather, she should <i>praise</i> such a wardrobe choice, so that her daughter will feel comfortable with her own "less-than-taut midriff."

In fact, the mother should view a young woman <i>"who flashes, without shame, a less-than-taut midriff"</i> as embodying precisely the kind of <i>freedom</i> from body concerns that she would wish to impart to her own daughter.

Moreover, the very idea of a mother disparaging her own daughter's figure is utterly disgraceful. Parents should be the ones who <i>protect</i> their daughters from the warped ways of the world. They should provide a bulwark against modern society, giving their daughters a safe haven, a comfort zone, in which their beauty is never questioned, but rather, celebrated unconditionally.

We had an interesting discussion about this phenomenon several months ago:

- <a href="http://www.judgmentofparis.com/board/showthread.php?t=109" target="_blank">Click here to read the original "Mothers and Daughters" thread</a>

In Old World culture (and still to this day, in families that are in tune with their heritage), mothers specifically <i>encouraged</i> their daughters to eat generously, giving them such lavish portions that the daughters themselves would ultimately have to turn away helpings--despite their mothers' protestations. "Body issues" never existed, so long as these natural attitudes towards food were preserved, and were passed on from one generation to the next.

However, once modern culture infiltrated the family unit, mothers allowed media indoctrination to trump their maternal instincts, and--quite tragically--began starving their own daughters, in an inversion of natural roles.

But the articles that have been posted in this thread, as well as some of the recent comments that have appeared on our forum, give us cause for hope. They portend a movement that will finally see mothers standing up to the media, and defending their vulnerable daughters from its pervasive brainwashing.

If so, we may soon witness the first generation of young women growing up with healthy self-esteem, and positive body image, in nearly a century.

Charlotte Church on a recent British newspaper cover--still very slim, but with the soft, natural beauty that comes from <i>not</i> starving:<p><center><img src="http://www.judgmentofparis.com/forum/cchurch05.jpg"></center>

6th April 2006, 16:40
"Positive body role models will help to combat an increasing feeling of low self-esteem among young girls, according to research released yesterday. By rejecting thin role models, such as Kate Moss, in favour of curvier idols, mothers hope to encourage their daughters to be happy with their natural shape."
I believe that wholeheartedly, and thats why I think its so important to celebrate plussize models, and any female celebrities who not only pay lip service to size celebraiton, but who embody it in their own appearance.

With that in mind, I was browsing a Charlotte Church fan site, and I found a color version of the picture that was recently posted in this thread. Its great that shes such a positive role model in the UK. I thought the matching of eyeshadow to the dress was a nice touch.


21st April 2006, 10:47
I just have a little something to add to this thread. There was a puff piece about Charlotte in the newspaper the other day:


It isn't terribly significant, but it does include the following line:

"She also looked fabulous, that curvy, classical beauty of hers none-the-worse for her widely reported junk food fetish."

See how misguided the thinking is? It probably never even occurred to this reporter that Charlotte possesses her "curvy, classical beauty" because of her so-called "junk-food fetish," not despite it, and that she simply eats whatever she wants, and as much as she wants, instead of starving herself into a skeletal shape. Natural appetite = natural beauty (which makes perfect sense, if you think about it).